[Todd w]

I’m considering adding a Striebig panel saw to my
shop. I’ve used them in other shops and I know they save a lot of
time, has anyone done a time/motion study to determine how much time is
saved per sheet/job?

Is there any room for negotiation on the price?

A two year old optisaw II sold on ebay for $16,000 on friday, another
sold last week for $25,000, would you consider buying a used one?

Is anyone using a phase converter to run one?

The Holz-her is about 10% less money, has anyone used both? How do they compare? Other brands?

[Steve Lefebvre]

I bought a brand new Striebig and worked the pi$$ out of it for ten years. I sold it to a fabricator who gladly paid me the same price that I paid when it was new. I doubt that you will get that with any other brand. Striebig rules for a reason. I am guessing that I spent less than $800.00 on parts and maintenence over those ten years.

[Andy Graves]

Todd wrote

I’m considering adding a Striebig panel saw to my shop. I’ve used them in other shops and I know they save a lot of time, has anyone done a time/motion study to determine how much time is saved per sheet/job?

The Holz-her is about 10% less money, has anyone used both? How do they compare? Other brands?

Answer One: Sh$% Load (Not Scientific Though)

Answer Two: Don’t bother. The Holzher works great but the Striebig is the number one in the industry. I wasn’t too happy with my customer service after the fact. Sales team didn’t know anything about it and the repair tech works on all type of machines so he really doesn’t know my panel saw model all that well.

[Shane Barker]

I have had mine for about 7 years now and I still use the
hell out of it. Moved it once ourselves and it still cuts as good as new. I don’t
think you would ever regret buying a Striebig. As far as buying used just make
sure it is in excellent shape and the price is right with shipping and set-up
figured in. I have never used a phase converter so can’t help you there. Good Luck

Shane

[John Cristina]

Streibig is the only way to go as far as the panel saw.

I did a time study when I first got mine and found we saved on average 4 shop hours per job. Cut seams better, process all yours parts faster, we used ours to trim all our straight tops after build up, etc…

If you buy used and are not good with setting up this type of equipment (takes some time and patience) hire a good company to move it and set it up for you. A good rigger should cost around $1500 to do this and is worth it in my opinion.

John

[Tom M]

John,
I had forgotten about the trimming after the gluing. That saved us a bit of time right there.
Our Optisaw II was wired for three-phase, 60 Hz. You should not need a phase inverter if you have this set up.

The only time we needed a phase inverter was when we got a free Italian edgebander that we never ended up using. It was a 50Hz machine.

Tom

[Todd w]

John,

Thanks, that’s the kind of number I was looking for. I was shop
foreman at two different shops when Striebig saws were introduced but
never did a time study, best numbers I could come up with were in line
with what Andy said.

Tom,

A phase converter converts single phase 220 to three phase 220. I
don’t have three phase in my current shop. I don’t know much more
than that, but I understand they’re pretty noisy.

[Tom M]

Todd,
Yeah, the first thing you may want to think about is, if you are looking to expand, is finding out if three phase is available to your building. Your going to run into this a lot, if you choose to go large with your equipment.

Sorry to have conflated phase converters with phase inverters. The advice stays, though. Get the vertical panel saw. I think the Streibig’s are great.

We have a specialist come in every few years to go over the machine. Last timne it cost about $1,500.00, but the machine was in top noptch shape aftter that. This price will vary, depending on how you maintain your equipment.

Tom

[Todd w]

More Questions,

How many sheets per week were you processing when you bought your saw?

Did you wish you bought it sooner? When?

How did you finance it? Cash, bank loan, in house financing, lease purchase, other? Suggestions?

Todd

[Andy Graves]

10 – 20 sheets per week

Wish I bought it 10 years sooner.

Lease through Holz-Her

If you company is incorporated, I would buy the panel saw personally and then lease it to the company. That way you own the saw. You can do a Home Equity loan and the interest will be tax deductible and the lease payment will only be taxed at 15% capital gains tax.

If you beleive in your company and can sell the counters to support your business, then a panel saw will make a huge difference.

[Len Smith]

If you want a Streibig for the dependability and service, but you are a smaller shop with lower volume, you might want to consider a Streibig Compact Plus. Check it out on Colonial Saw’s website. You can get a brand new Streibig saw for less than the Optisaw, and it comes standard with the small parts backer.

[Todd w]

“The saw is ideal for the shop that primarily cuts single sheets
(although it does have multiple sheet capability with 2-5/16″ depth of
cut) and wants the ability to cut larger panels or the occasional solid
surface sheet.”

Would the 4 hp motor stand up to daily solid surface production? I doubt the smaller motor would do any V-grooving, but I’m not too sure how well that would work anyway. Does anyone do any V-grooving on a Striebig?

Todd

[Samuel Andrask]

Todd, I have several customers that do V-grooving on a Striebig albeit on the larger HP version. Although I don’t sell the saws, I’ve tooled up a heck of a lot of them and a good quality blade is a must!

Wish the Europeans would quit sending hollow ground blades with these saws as they are worthless for a quality SS cut and not worth sharpening as you won’t use them a second time.

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