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July 3, 2009 at 1:29 am #3751QuartzoStoneMember
How realiable will be for quartz surface in 12mm thick?
Have anyone do a 12mm thick kitchen or counter top using quartz surface?July 3, 2009 at 8:43 am #52918Un-AuthorizedMemberPosted By Quartzo on 03 Jul 2009 01:29 AM
How realiable will be for quartz surface in 12mm thick?
Have anyone do a 12mm thick kitchen or counter top using quartz surface?Quartzo:
I did a quick conversion from millimeters to inches for us, which is 0.47244 or just under 1/2″. I didn’t know Silestone was availiable in “1/2”. What do they say?
I wouldn’t cantilever it without support, but set on dead-level cabinets, it should be fine, especially if you built up the edges.
Joe
July 3, 2009 at 9:47 am #52921Karl CrooksMemberIf you are concerned about the counter cracking I can tell you that the 100’s of of cracks in Quartz that we have seen and repaired where NOT do to the thinkness of the counters.
July 5, 2009 at 6:44 pm #52942Eli PoliteMemberi saw a bunch of it at the silestone headquarters in Huston 2 years ago and was told it was ment more for wall cladding like showers and full height back splash im sure it could be given a mitered edge and used for a top i just cant imagine it would be that reliable
July 6, 2009 at 1:04 am #52944Karl CrooksMemberPosted By politefab on 05 Jul 2009 06:44 PM
i saw a bunch of it at the silestone headquarters in Huston 2 years ago and was told it was ment more for wall cladding like showers and full height back splash im sure it could be given a mitered edge and used for a top i just cant imagine it would be that reliableWhat makes you think that ?? I would think that if you did the fab / install it would be more than fine.
July 6, 2009 at 7:28 am #52946Brian StoneMemberIf you use that material for a counter top I would do a mitered edge and then use some type of substrate. I think the original intention of the material was wall cladding.
July 7, 2009 at 6:32 am #52957Gene McDonaldMemberI havent read the manual..but is full substrate a no-no..or can i use full substrate honeycomb so maybe it can go in boats and Rvs?
I asssume it would be easier to cut for us hand tool guys?
July 7, 2009 at 3:53 pm #52970Ray AleksicMemberI have spent the last 2 years traveling the European market and can say that the majoity of production from large fabrication shops is 12mm with a mitred edge for worktops. The speed of production and the use of color matched adhesives giving a near invisible seam make it an attractive fabrication method. In my opinion it is the way of the future, especially for commercial work. Just my 2 cents.
July 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm #52971Karl CrooksMemberPosted By Ray Aleksic – Integra Adhesives on 07 Jul 2009 03:53 PM
I have spent the last 2 years traveling the European market and can say that the majoity of production from large fabrication shops is 12mm with a mitred edge for worktops. The speed of production and the use of color matched adhesives giving a near invisible seam make it an attractive fabrication method. In my opinion it is the way of the future, especially for commercial work. Just my 2 cents.I agree !!!
July 8, 2009 at 7:56 am #52983Gene McDonaldMemberKarl, ray. have you looked underneath…do they full substrate 1/4 inch quartz?
would Honeycomb be ok for some applications?
race car trailers? I think the 1/4 inch quartz has more depth than the acystone SS SSv type stuff
but cool bright wild colors though
July 8, 2009 at 9:50 am #52987Karl CrooksMemberPosted By Gene McDonald on 08 Jul 2009 07:56 AM
Karl, ray. have you looked underneath…do they full substrate 1/4 inch quartz?would Honeycomb be ok for some applications?
race car trailers? I think the 1/4 inch quartz has more depth than the acystone SS SSv type stuff
but cool bright wild colors though
Yes Gene most all quartz installs have full substrate.
July 8, 2009 at 10:08 am #52988Brian StoneMemberI don’t know what would be wrong with using the honeycomb material for a substrate.
The only thing that would worry me about the top would be the possibility of the laminated edge getting rattled off in an environment like a mobile home or trailer.
July 8, 2009 at 11:08 am #52991Ray AleksicMemberI have seen many different options for substrate on quartz and granite in Europe. Here are a few options that I have been seeing the most. Wood is not used.
#1-Aluminum cubes front and back glued directly to the Quartz 3-4″ Strips
#2-U-Lite(Hard Foam)front and back 3-4″ strips
#3 Quartz off cuts, strips front and back
#4 Honeycomb full substrateIt seems like the European Fabrication methods are much further ahead then in North America, and I do not think it is just from technology. I think that they are open to change and looking for better options and techniques.
Ray
July 8, 2009 at 1:08 pm #52994Gene McDonaldMemberThanx guys dats all I need to hear…I dont mind being the first to try it…but as long as someone else somewhere has done it and are doing it..Now let me go see if can sell some of this stuff to try out…
welp off I go tp racecars
July 8, 2009 at 1:53 pm #52995Karl CrooksMemberPosted By Ray Aleksic – Integra Adhesives on 08 Jul 2009 11:08 AM
I have seen many different options for substrate on quartz and granite in Europe. Here are a few options that I have been seeing the most. Wood is not used.#1-Aluminum cubes front and back glued directly to the Quartz 3-4″ Strips
#2-U-Lite(Hard Foam)front and back 3-4″ strips
#3 Quartz off cuts, strips front and back
#4 Honeycomb full substrateIt seems like the European Fabrication methods are much further ahead then in North America, and I do not think it is just from technology. I think that they are open to change and looking for better options and techniques.
Ray
Ray are you seeing the 3″-4″ wide front and back strips on 12MM decks ??
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