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    I’ve made a nice living recycling solid surface countertops for customers and have done it many times. One guy sold his house and the buyer told him he could take his Corian, another bought a display from a closing showroom. Once before I pulled granite tops, the customer replaced the cabinets and I reinstalled the tops.

    Today I installed garage-sale granite. Yep, the guy bought the granite at a garage sale and I installed it for him. His uninstaller cut through the rodding and destroyed the sink but I was able to reassemble everything on the top. I repaired a couple of chips at the sink. The cutout for the sink is for some $1,500.00 Italian job, he’s installing a $150.00 closeout sink that comes close to matching the polished cutout.
     
    With my bill, the cost of the garage-sale granite and the closeout sink, the guy will probably pay $600.00 or so for 50SF of a dark Uba Tuba.
     
    Joe

    #67573
    Tom M
    Member

    That’s true “Green”, if you ask me.

    #67577
    David Gerard
    Member

    Nice.

    We have had requests to  install showroom tops in the past.  We gave a price with no warranty.   The customer should have come to us first before they got sucked into the big box sales pitch.   Just too much $$ to make new seams here and there and of coarse a complete repolish.

    Im all for doing it you can though.

    #67580

    Nice Job, Joe.  It is all good when it can work out that way.  Many times it is just not worth it.

    Johnny C

    #67586
    Len Smith
    Member

    Very cool, Joe.

    #67588

    Thanks everybody, but I got my a$$ handed to me the next morning. After complete satisfaction and payment, this customer called me yesterday morning bitching that I hadn’t top polished the seams. He was oblivious to the fact that cost more money, he wanted it done with no additional payment.

    I mailed back his check.

    Joe

    #67592
    Len Smith
    Member

    You should have just mailed half of it back to him.

    #67593
    KCWOOD
    Member

    Posted By Kowboy on 28 Apr 2011 07:05 PM
    Thanks everybody, but I got my a$$ handed to me the next morning. After complete satisfaction and payment, this customer called me yesterday morning bitching that I hadn’t top polished the seams. He was oblivious to the fact that cost more money, he wanted it done with no additional payment.

    I mailed back his check.

    Joe

    Joe… 
              You really need to stay with what you do best…  Being a student

    This is one more reason. there needs to be a website, kinda a reverse of Angies list, where one trade can warn other trades of problems they have had dealing with a specific homeowner..

    You are just too kind Joe… I would have said I could come back for a fee… I never would have returned their check… sometimes you have to treat bottom feeders like they want to treat you…

    #67594

    This is a cost of doing business, nothing more and nothing less, just like an electric bill or abrasives. You can’t let your rent get too high and you can’t pick too many bad customers.

    It wasn’t worth it to me to have this guy complain to servicemagic, the Better Business Bureau and blab all over the internet. If he does now, I’ll just say “I refunded all his money.” That pretty much trumps anything he has to say.

    Joe

    #67596
    Tom M
    Member

    While I admire the principled stand, I wonder if you returning the money actually has the reverse effect. The curious consumer may think that, by returning it so easily, you are conceding there was a problem on your end with the quality or professionalism of your service.

    If you went and polished the seams the next day, you would still be out some of your money, but the customer could report that there was a misunderstanding between him and you, but you stood up and took care of the problem.

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    KC, that is an interesting idea. I wonder if it could be legally done?

    #67599

    I like Toms answer.  But I never met the customer.

    Johnny C
    #67601

    Posted By Tom M on 30 Apr 2011 09:18 AM
    While I admire the principled stand, I wonder if you returning the money actually has the reverse effect. The curious consumer may think that, by returning it so easily, you are conceding there was a problem on your end with the quality or professionalism of your service.

    If you went and polished the seams the next day, you would still be out some of your money, but the customer could report that there was a misunderstanding between him and you, but you stood up and took care of the problem.

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    KC, that is an interesting idea. I wonder if it could be legally done?

    Tom:

    You make a good point.

    What really did it for me was when it came time to pay, I included my drive time. Every since I’ve been in the repair business, I charge for drive time. Every single person who’s ever called me has had that explained as part of my minimum charge. I would no more forget to tell it to a potential customer than I would forget to put on my pants.

    This guy insisted that I NEVER told him I charge for drive time. When he said that, I knew he was a liar. Once I know you have no integrity, I want to terminate our business relationship as soon as possible.

    Yes, I could have went back and top polished his seams for no money but since he beat me up on my drive time, I had little appetite for another round with the liar.
    Who knows what his next fantasy might be?

    KC has an excellent idea, I don’t know why it would be illegal.

    Joe

    #67629
    Tom M
    Member

    Maybe you can use a catch phrase as a mnemonic device:
    “I use the plumber’s method for billing – portal to portal. The clock starts when I leave my house.”

    Or something that will click when you remind them of this fact.

    #68799
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    How about “I charge for drive time, but I’m worth it”

    #68806
    Norm Walters
    Member

    I have had the conversation about drive time with my customers. I simply ask them if they work for someone would they drive from one location to another and not be paid for the time. The truth is not only would they get paid for the time but they would also be reimbursed for the mileage or write it off at the end of the year as an unreimbursed employee expense.

    You can’t have four hours of work scheduled in an eight hour day, at four different loacations and only get paid for four hours, they wouldn’t do it, neither should you.

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