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  • #5200
    Brady Hudson
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    Quartz seams?  Do you use the specified or recommended adhesive for each color of material?  I.E. – Brazilian Brown quartz and uses Integra Brazilian Brown(or whatever glue manufactuer you choose to use). 

    OR

    Do you use a limited number of adhesives for multiple colors of tops?

    Here’s my situation; I’m having to inventory/manage a multitude of colors and it is a huge pain.

    I know some guys fabricate solid surface only using Chameleon or “opaque/clear type” colors.  What I’ve done on the solid surface is carry “stock colors” (Bone, Glacier White, Pewter, White Chocolate etc…etc…) and have pretty good luck with this.

    Is it possible to pull (good)seams in quartz using color “hues”?   Could we stock Brown, Grey, White, Off white, Black, etc.?

    Example – I’ve got: warm grey, storm grey, absolute grey, newport grey, iron grey, stellar grey.  Wow!  And I know they are all a bit different in color.

    Let me know your thoughts.

    Brady

    #68938

    Brady:

    I do a lot of repairs and I mix my own colors, with the exception of peach or other oddball. It would be impractical for me to carry all of them because they would age out before being used. I carry clear, white, beige and tint my way to the rest.

    Joe

    #68942
    Mark Meriaux
    Member

    I would suggest dropping down to a few Integra colors:

    Crystal Clear for dark colored seams
    Chameleon for beige/medium colors
    Magic for lighter/white colors

    As long as your seams are good and tight, these few colors will get most of the jobs for you. Unless you land an oddball color (bright red, blue, or light greens), these cover 95% of the quartz jobs (for us, anyway).  If we get a large job of one color (6+ slabs), then we’ll order color-matched glue when we order the slabs. For off-the-shelf stock, the three colors above are all we keep on hand.

    #68943
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    I like Marks way of doing things, especially on the job. If you place an order for adhesive to do an edge lamination then buying the proper color is fine.

    #68946
    Chad Thomas
    Member

    Hi Brady,

    It really comes down to the quality of the seam. The color options are out there to give you good matches even when the seam is big enough to park you’re bike in it but a fabricator doing good work can get produce excellent quality seams with a very limited number of colors.
    Chet in Utah developed a method of cutting the deck seam with a peice of Corian glued to the slab to  minimize blow out and produc a razor sharp edge-his seams were nearly ivisible other than the distortion of particulate. The Seam Phantom, developed by Kris Jorgenson uses the same principle to prep the deck seam and also gives excellent results using colors like Mark mentioned.
    I would look at a limited range of colors keeping in mind that the hardest colors to match will be those with the smallest particulate (sand size) If you start by selecting colors that match the big selling, small particulate quartz slabs-you should be able to develope a greatly reduced stock list that will still give you great results.
    All the best and let me know if you need some suggestions.
    #68952

    Brady:

    I’m assuming most of your installers are male. If so, 7% are color blind. This could be a problem unless you standardize.

    Joe

    #68954
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    On each job, we check the charts and tell the fabricator/installer what adhesive to use. We don’t leave it up to them to decide. Eliminates lots of mistakes.

    #68961
    Chris Yaughn
    Member

    Chad nailed it.  Buy a seam phantom and a set of Gorilla Grips and you can reduce your quartz seam adhesives to one or two colors and you will be light years ahead of your market if bridge saw seams are the norm.

    Buy the right color for lminations, I guess, never done it much.

    for funsies this is a recent seam (not in quartz, in Ornamental) using the phantom, grips  and one of the catch all colors. 

    Photobucket

    Photobucket
    The Clients son asked how we got such a huge “U” shaped horshoe kitchen in the house in one piece. 🙂

    #68962
    Chris Yaughn
    Member

    Sorry for blowing out the margins,  it did not do that on preview.

    Andy, is there a way to just copy/past the img view from phtobucket here?

    I thought I figured out the html option thingy but clearly I didn’t.   Makes posting pics a pain.

    #68963
    Lenny E
    Member

    Nice work Chris! I just love viewing the craftsmanship of Fabnet folks.

    #68984
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    Posted By Chris Yaughn on 12 Aug 2011 12:11 AM

    Sorry for blowing out the margins,  it did not do that on preview.

    Andy, is there a way to just copy/past the img view from phtobucket here?

    I thought I figured out the html option thingy but clearly I didn’t.   Makes posting pics a pain.

    You will need to insert with the HTML section and past it in. The image size is what is blowing out the margins not the fact you pasted the image through the html.

    #68985
    Chris Yaughn
    Member

    OK.  Here is a try at the html code in the regular “reply to topic” box.

    This is  a river cream seam

    <a href="http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/…CN0010.jpg” target=”_blank”><img src="http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/…CN0010.jpg” border=”0″ alt=”Photobucket”>

    #68986
    Chris Yaughn
    Member

    Uh Oh.  That worked pretty well.  I may have been overcomplicating this thing.  By trying to match the wites html to photobuckets html.

    fwiw.  I have no idea what the pic size is.  It is whatever my camera has always been set to.

    Here is an attempt at two pics in one post.

    In the second I am not in the barber shop    I am in the powder room at a house we just did.  Sitting on the throne.  Actually a neat house, 4 slabs of white carrera.     Mostly Southern plantation looking expect for the fun house bathroom.

    But, I’ll never figure out why people need that much room  to live.    I often wonder why me and my wife and our 3 (or4 depending on how you count), need the 1800sq/ft we have.  We have befriended a family that has a grandma raising 6 in a short singlewide.  Maybe 15 sq/ft of tops in the entire house….   But I digress………………..

    here are the pics

    <a href="http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/…CN0280.jpg” target=”_blank”><img src="http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/…CN0280.jpg” border=”0″ alt=”Photobucket”>

    <a href="http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/…CN0250.jpg” target=”_blank”><img src="http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/…CN0250.jpg” border=”0″ alt=”Photobucket”>

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