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To all who stack,
I had one of suppliers get me 7/8″ MDF with a white paper fiinish on one side for my tops. I have seen on here or talked with people that have complained about the 1″ materials. This supplier has multiple location in 15 states, would you be interested in getting some. You will probably need to buy an entire unit at a time (approx 34 sheets) cant remember. If so let me know and I will let them know. We have some pull with them and can make it happen. I am sure we could also pressure, as a group, to get a mill to make 7/8 for us solid surface stackers.
John
John, I have been using an import plywood they call 1″, it actually measures 15/16″ I have been getting it from Tech Products.
John, Norboard will make you any thickness MDFyou want with an order of a trailer load. I do a 2″ stack so I need to use 15/16. I don’t use enough to order that much. I just run my 1″ MDF through my wide belt sander.
I did hear of an import plywood that was 15/16″… I need to check on it.
Norm, I did find the 1/8″ door skins at Home Depot. $6.78 each. Thanks!
When you say a 2” stack are you talking about two layers of ½”
at 2” wide to make a
1 ½” thick edge?Shane
Shane, yes. Kelsey and I both do it that way. It uses more material and sometimes I buy a 5″ strip to get the splash.
We do 7/8″ so if the mdf is a little thick or thin it doesn’t
matter that much but if you are doing two inch wouldn’t the 15/16” cause
problems if it was a bit on the thick side. The way the material is we run into
that a lot. Do you adjust the thickness on each job?Shane
Shane, I use plywood and the thickness has always been consistent. Maybe your MDF is absorbing moisture and swelling in the shop, I don’t know.
Sorry Norm, I don’t think I explained that very well. Instead
of 2” wide we do 7/8” wide build up with an 11/4” overhang so the substrate
does not need to be exact to the build up, however with a 2” build up if your
15/16” mdf is a little thick because the solid surface is well under ½” then you
have problems, likewise if the ss is right at a 1/2″.So the thickness issue I am talking about is from the
solid surface not being at ½”. We plane down our strips from 1” mdf on the cnc
to whatever size we need so we don’t really have an issue.Shane
Shane,
I understand front overhang thickness substrate issue. I do not remember if it was you or some one said once they sometimes will drop the countertop front lip down cabinet front 1/4″, so sometimes use 3/4″ substrate. I understand that. Question is on same kitchen drop edge has finished edge that can only hang over 1/4″ cant drop down side cabinet and still look same thickness correct or am I missing something? Also have slide in range I finish back that return so same problem if want to do drop edge correct? Maybe I have been seeing to many different whites this week and my brain is dead. SO how you do those drop edges in those cicumstances?
Reuben
Avonite says minimum of 1 1/2″ width on buildups? I can’t tell you the people, I have installed for, that told me they like the feeling of the 2″ buildup when they grab the edge. I have actually received several jobs because of it.
Reuben,
We use ½” mdf and lip over the cab ½” every time we can, if
the dishwasher is crowded or other reasons we may go ¾” mdf with ¼ lip over the
cab. If we need to not lip at all we will use 7/8” – 15/16” mdf. As far as ends
that do not have enough overhang to allow for the lip down, if these ends are
not hidden by a refer or range we will not do the lip over the cabs and keep
the edges all the same thickness, but it is not too often that we have an open
end that we cannot get at least an 1” overhang.KC,
Last I heard Avonite had a minimum of 1” on build up, but I don’t
do much Avonite so I may not have the latest info. I agree that a 2” edge can
be more appealing but you would only notice it on a top with extended overhang
like an island or peninsula and I personally don’t feel it is worth the extra
material and glue to do it as a standard. I know what you mean about when
people grab the edge and like the feel, I get the same results by doing a
roundover on the inside bottom edge and sanding everything smooth. My motto is “If
your finger can touch it its got to feel smooth”, and that has got me jobs as
well.Shane
Shane wrote
Reuben,
We use ½” mdf and lip over the cab ½” every time we can,
Shane
What do you do over the dishwasher in this case? Is 1/2″ mdf enough to support a span that large?
Usually when we are
able to use ½” mdf it is on shop built cabs, these cabs usually have a stile
across the top of the dishwasher span for support and if there is not one
across the back we will put one in at install. If we ever feel that support may
be a problem we will go with the thicker substrate.Shane
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