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  • #4773
    ajames
    Member

    I am a home owner that purchased some remnents from a contractor. I asked him for some advice and all he told me was sear the web and gave me what he had left over.
    I have been searching hi/low on how to fabricate this stuff and not getting to much help.
    Can anyone from here give some advice or have videos of how to fabricate?

    I do some woodworking on the side building cabinets for friends and little odds and ends. So I have some tools.
    Small Festool rail saw
    Palm Router
    Sanders, etc.

    My biggest concerns were the following:
    With the Festool saw I cut a small piece to see how it would handle it. Do you cut through in multiple passes or one pass. Either way seems I can smell the burn and not sure if that is to be expected.

    For sink openings do people use hand routers, jigsaws or both? And recommendations of how to cut the the sink opening with a router and a recommended bit and speed. Again, I have tried a few and I seem to smell the burn or my router seems to have a hard time plunging in.

    Thank you very much for your time and advice.
    Anthony

    #64494
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    Hello Anthony,

    If you smell burning, it is burning and typically turns the material a darker color.

    You are going to need carbide tools and a ton of sandpaper. This material is extremely hard and difficult to work with.

    #64511
    Brian Stone
    Member

    I found this with a quick search.

    Paperstone Design and Fabrication Guide

    #64514
    Lenny E
    Member

    Hey its paperstone, right? Burn marks? Just use a freaking eraser! hahahahahahaha

    Sorry, I couldn’t resist that. Please see Brian Stones post above for more pertinent information.

    #64515
    ajames
    Member

    Brian,

    Thank you. I have that document as well. I was hoping to find better directions in a video or something. I learn much better by seeing than reading if you know what I mean.

    Example is like when I did my own concrete countertops. I purchased a couple books and videos and the video’s really hit home much better then the books.

    I would post a picture of my end result but can’t figure out how to upload an image

    #64517
    Brian Stone
    Member

    I can’t help you much more than that since I have personally never fabricated the stuff. I would say that it’s fairly normal to get a little bit of a burning smell but if the material is turning black and smoking then you need to do something differently. The person that you need to contact is Gene McDonald.

    I know that he has fabricated a decent amount of the material and he’s very helpful. If for some reason he doesn’t chime in or if you can’t get a hold of him on here you can check out his website at http://www.gotgreencountertops.com/

    Gene, you can thank me for the referral later.

    #64519
    ajames
    Member

    Brian,

    Thanks again. I have stumbled across his (Gene’s) site before and have tried sending him an email and he has never responded. That was a month or so ago. Then I got sidetracked until recently trying to work with the Paperstone. Maybe I will get lucky and he can assist me here.

    #64530
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    You will probably not get much assistance calling a fabricator direct. They are in business to sell countertops, not help DIY folks do it themselves.

    The manual is going to be your best bet. Practice a little and you will get the hang of it.

    Post a picture when you complete your project.

    #64533

    I think Andy hit it pretty squarely.

    Johnny C

    #64537

    Hey..Like I told you aj..I do not know of or have time to make videos of me fabricating, using my adhesives, my inlay filler, saw blades teeth per inch..so you can do a countertop..I am so sorry

    You did great by reading the manual..but then do..make a little sq ft top so you will be able to jack that up…but its like reading an airbrush book..the reason I have gotten hesitant about advice or suggestions..is because I got too many of those calls…I did what you said Gene and now the customer hates me..LOL

    I can suggest how to hi polish with grits and someone may do it with different pressure and then it gets on me…I have learned to direct to fab manual to start out with…I am a trailblazer..I took paperstone to the limits from inlay cherries and coffee beans to doing sculptures outside with it…but I spent lotsa time(which is money)…so I also think itsa small world

    I spent money to attend classes and get certified…if you contact paperstone they will send a rep to see you and problay train you in shop..its not being mean..I just think the best way to help you is to do according to manual…best advice is to do..

    paperstone MFG are lame to offer the handyman specials to people..first of all its different thicknesses..which mean s when you seam it it will have busted paper layers in it.and they sell it and people install it and tell the world Thats paperstone…crazy

    Not me..buit be prepared and expect to pay money to learn something..anything you learn costs..College, trade school, certiifcation swith solid Surface, etc

    welcome to the fabnet buddy

    #64548
    ajames
    Member

    Gene,

    Did we talk or something? You make it sound like we did.

    As for videos, I am thinking we are on different wavelengths. My thought of a video is something completely different then what you are thinking.

    But thanks for your time.

    #64552

    Im sorry Aj, is your company start with a BAy Cabinets type thing…then sorry for the misunderstanding…I got two email from someone claiming to ask the same thing and I responded the same way..But again welcome to the Fabnet

    #64553
    ajames
    Member

    No I work for FedEx and raise poultry

    #64554

    what thing you did not mention is the thickness of the remenants you bought…PS comes from 1/4″ – 1 1/2″  so if you got the thick stuff…yes two to three times might be better…one of this biggest problems with Paperstone is people thinking its paper …its such a dumb name..first off all to sell it..very difficult to get sold for more money than granite..its resin you are cutting that happen to have paper thrown into it..

    The reason PS mfg’s tell you to use woodwork tools is cause paper comes from wood and its more like working with hard rock maple dipped in resin…doesnt that sound more descriptive that paper in resin as if you could cut it with scissors

    just cut it a couple times to get the feel, then use ur top round to clean up the edge…you should be ok…sorry…If ur name is Ajax from florida in a Bay name type thing..then I apologize…good luck learning..and welcome

    * NOTE DISCLAIMER: I know this is fabnet, but the suggestions just mentioned are not to be held responsible from Gene McDonald if they cut their fingers off, if thier ryobi saw kicks back and cuts their thigh in half..I am not responsible.

    Using Festool decreases the odds like Aj uses festools..dont use crappy tools when learning is a statement from me…after that You are on your own…xoxoxoxoxoxox

    #64555
    KCWOOD
    Member

    Gene, like the disclaimer!
    Did you feel you had to put that on because of being insanly insane in a insane kinda way??

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