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January 8, 2007 at 12:42 am #614
Andy Graves
KeymasterPlease take a second to welcome Seth Emery as the new CAD/DXF file guy. Seth is going to stay on top of the CAD section. He will keep the section updated and will add new files and links.
If you have any files or suggestions, don’t hesitate to contact Seth at seth77@ptd.net
Thanks
January 8, 2007 at 7:00 am #12509Mory Ludwick
MemberWelcome Seth
Mory
January 8, 2007 at 7:48 am #12511Jon Olson
MemberSeth is an outstanding young man. Who really knows his stuff. Wat to go Seth.
January 8, 2007 at 7:19 pm #12551Mark Urbaniak
MemberHello And Welcome Seth
January 8, 2007 at 8:31 pm #12554Shane Barker
MemberCouldn’t get a better man for the job, Seth really knows his
stuff.Shane
January 8, 2007 at 9:56 pm #12560Chris Yaughn
MemberDoes that make Seth a board member or something???

Chris
In all seriousness thanks for stepping up and taking some responsibility for the outcome of this venture.
January 9, 2007 at 12:08 am #12565Tom M
MemberThank you, Seth, forthe pain you are about tovolunteering to handle this.
We have built up quite a collection of dxf files over the years. Most are pretty acurate, but would you want notes with offset info, whether it was a typical sink makers version, which usually shows the rim, or one that we have adjusted? How about Corian and the metric sizes that must be brought down to earth if you are set to standard?I’ll send what I have, if you wish, but whether it’s mine or yours, or Andy’s, you should have a firm disclaimer that the user is responsible to check accuracy.
Tom
January 9, 2007 at 9:19 pm #12638Seth Emery
MemberThanks everyone for your support. Tom, I will get back to you shortly about your files.
Have a nice evening,
SethJanuary 19, 2007 at 10:18 pm #13323Seth Emery
MemberTom,
I really appreciate you offering to donate files and apologize for how long it is taking for me to get back to you. Andy and I have talked about user-donated files before, and we are going to have to further discuss them. A couple issues are people’s willingness to share and things like you mentioned, such as reveals and inaccuracies. One thing is for sure – most manufacturers have no clue what a lot of CAD/CAM programs require – polylines, no splines, no gaps, etc. I appreciate that a great number of them are making dxf files available, but I would like to talk to some of them about things that could make inserting cutouts easier.
Have a nice day,
SethJanuary 19, 2007 at 11:14 pm #13324Tom M
MemberFirst,Russ writes up a column about how the truly dedicated manufacturers seem to be helping the fabricator trade help them, get it published in kb&d and surf fab. Make sure manufacturers know about it.
Second,
FabNet community project : We all sign an e-petition asking manufacturers to allow us to clean and resubmit their files for aproval, responsibility ours, if they will let us borrow product to check (I will commit my company to once a week round trip to the close distributors by me. They give me what they can, and agree to refasten the box for shipping, Jon does his area, etc.).
Third,
You replace the files with clean files as they come in. It must be absolutely understood that no one holds any of us responsible for the use of these files. This is critical.
Sinks – drop in, farm, undermount, etc.
Stove/cooktop cut out dimensions (a separate area for pdf files might be good as well)
Special area for designs for inlay/intartia graded on ease of actual production, diversity of style, number of trips to the machine, etc.
Anything else we can eventually insert.
Advertising on every page – free to the respective manufacturer on his particular page, but pay by click elsewhere (or whatever you guys do).
With their proceeds, Andy and Mory pay for a huge Party at Dave’s or Norm’s in two years, as it will take at least that long to get this stuff done. We are annointed First Knights of FabNet and get to wear really cool knickers in parades.
Okay, maybe not so much that last bit.
Tom
January 19, 2007 at 11:21 pm #13326Tom M
MemberThis should allow us to submit the files we have already revised. I must have quite a few by now, and I doubt many of us delted them after use.January 19, 2007 at 11:43 pm #13328January 20, 2007 at 12:20 am #13332Andy Graves
KeymasterInstead of doing this work ourselves, what if we leverage our membership to ask the sink and cooktop manufacturers to make dxf files work for us. They already have the file and all they really need to do is simplify the file and take out the 3D polylines and all the nonsence they add.
Tom, would you be interested in calling, let’s say Kohler and ask them to make the changes. I have had real good luck talking with the solid surface manufacturers. They helped with the warranty standards chart and were happy to help.
January 20, 2007 at 1:18 am #13338Tom M
MemberOh, no doubt they’ll let you use the files, but there’s not much in it for them to do the work when we’ll only have to redo it againanyway. What’s the point?
The sink guys have an interest in their form of undermount, because it makes the bowl look better. It adds the third dimension missing in a traditional undermount. It also sucks ass. Oops, sorry.
January 20, 2007 at 1:34 am #13340Andy Graves
KeymasterI have seen undermount sinks of all sorts and it seems that everyone does it different. I know I have my own library that I have for my personal preferrences but would not work for all. Most people only use about 2% of all the sink files that exist. If I could just get an easy to use file without layers or splines, it is easy for me to convert to exactly what I want and then save on my own sink library for later use.
When I get a file from someone else that has been altered, I tend to spend more time checking and making a test than I do just measuring and cutting.
Give me your thoughts. I want to provide the best files available to the FabNet.
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