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  • #712

    I’ve done many swanstone showers, but a recent kitchen job resulted in the customer asking for a shower pan to put under tile walls. Swanstone didn’t have the right size, 48 x 48, and I am reluctant on using solid surface for the pan in an upstairs master bath.

    Being too cautious here? I’d rather lose a sale than my reputation for quality, long lasting work.

    #13806
    Todd w
    Member

    check out http://www.grifform.com/home.asp They aren’t cheap but very well made, exactly to specs, I wouldn’t touch it if I wasn’t doing the wet walls.

    Todd

    #13814
    Jon Olson
    Member

    We used to make Shower Pans. There wasn’t any easy way to do it. We decided to outsource this part. We use griform. They make a nice pan. (Just got in a nice Mystera pan from them) Bath remodel is a nice market. A shower pan and wet wall project can be a nice cash cow if you plan it out.

    #13844

    We make our Shower Pans, we just glue up two pieces so we can get a nice fall, put the drain in the right location, with alphcam it haves a shower pan add-in, It will programe the Z to fall to the drain no matter where the location is,We use a drain board bit , no need to sand the bottom wtih the drain board bit you get a nice non-slip bottom, Make the curb and there ya have it.

    #13846
    Tom M
    Member

    MUrban,

    Do you use both alphacam and artcam?

    Tom

    #13847

    MUrban,

    what is the Alphacam add-in that you are referring to?

    #13850
    Jon Olson
    Member

    Murban. Do you fab a dam to prevent water from seeping into the green board? What about pitch what is your angle?

    #13854

    Yes we build a dam the same height of the curb. Look like a cove back splash, the green board sets on top on the dam (Splash), Then the wall panels goes over the top of the green board and dam down to the pan. you would have to have a 4″ deep pool before it would get to the board.

    As far as the pitch i just have to tell alpha cam the fall 1/8,1/4,3/8 etc and click OK , it sets the tool path to fall to the location of the drain.

    Hope this makes sense to you

    Patrick the add-in is just a VBA Macro, If you have alpha cam just go the add-in and turn on Showerpans

    Tom, I don’t have ARTCAM

    #13868

    Well, maybe I wasn’t clear on my question. What do you guys think about using solid surface as a pan, walking on it, house settling, and so on. I know it makes a great countertop, but will it hold up installed on concrete slabs without cracking after a few years? I would feel comfortable with it on the walls, and the Swanstone pans are reinforced with ribs and the fibers in the product itself. Seems like an acrylic or polyester pan might not hold up well unless it was cushioned in some way from contact with the concrete.

    Educate me, please…..

    #13873
    Tom M
    Member

    Al,

    We never made shower pans, but we’ve sold a few custom-made ones. If you mud it in, or otherwise support it well, there shouldn’t be a problem with cracking from weight. Shock of some kind would be the greater risk.

    Tom

    #13887
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    Al,

    Don’t worry about it. It will work fine and we have never had any problems with durability and leaking. I would use Grifform for the pan. The are tested and rated to meet certain plumbing standards

    #13908
    Joe Corlett
    Member

    All:

    I have toured the shop of Everett (sorry can’t remember his last name, begins with a “B”?) in Indiana who makes a real nice pan and has for years. He has been at most of the shows too. I’ve got an a$$-kickin’ cold today and I’m too lazy to go down and look him up in the Surface Fabrication Magazine.

    I’ve bought pans form Meridian Industries, Massillon, Ohio, a.k.a. Todd Werstler, (ISSFA Treasurer?) with excellent results. They’ve got a website too, but I’m too out of it to find it.

    I would do business with either of these folks without a second thought.

    Joe

    #13909

    Al,

    To answer your question simply, we love ’em. Most of us here would cover or make any thing in solid surface. If you just use proper technique it will last forever with out any worries as well as looking fantastic. I am not familiar with pans from the two other companies that Joe mentioned but the ones from Griform are realy nice especially the way they do the curbs and other side.

    John

    #13918

    I can see where grouting it in would make it safe. Might try that.

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