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Searched the archive with no luck.
I am unable to find any mfg manual statements about the suitability of radiant heating behind SS. Does anybody have any experience on the topic? Wondering about floor, seat, and wall applications.
Jimbo,
I fabricated and installed a couple of shower pans about ten years ago that were above radiant heat. So far no call backs. The product was Corian.
Johnny C
I assume your speaking of hot water heat, not electric.. Depending on the temperature of the hot water (prob 120 to 130 degrees) I doubt you would have a problem, as long as the whole bottom is being heated. Its a slow heat, even, which means any expansion would be even and mild. Its thermal shock that causes most problems. I would feel more comfortable with an acrylic or acrylic blend rather than a poly under these circumstances. Who’s product is it, and have you asked them how to do it? Most mfg will run it by their tech support for suggestions. I would make sure the water temperature was warm not hot, and try and get the heat as even as possible.
Good Luck !
Hot Water Radiant Heat typically runs through the floor at 80-90 degrees no more, other wise your house woud be an oven. HW is the most common form of radiant heat in the North AMerican and European markets to my last understanding. Because thr heat is low temp and very gradual in its introduction there should be no problem just make sure where the basr meets an outside wall you seal and insulate that area well and allow for thermal adjustment, fabwizard
You know, it might even help a bit, since the material heats from both sides more evenly.
Is 90 degrees because of how the pipes are embedded? Sounds surprisingly comfortable.
Is there a way to put a timer on the circulation, as it will soon be unnecessary after the temps adjust?
Tom
I would be using Corian, and it is a water based radiant with a very programmable control over the heating and the ramp rate can be controlled. Just wondering if anybody used any special fastening on walls besides silicone. Thanks for the comments.
Tom, you are correct. radiant heat is a superior form of heating because it is very uniform. It is often set into a masonrey bed and as it heats the floor it heats the living space. I messed up earlier in that usually water temp is in the 70-80deg max range and is controlled by a thermostat system. For cold climates its great and in the summer you can run cool water through cooling your home.Fabwizard
“and in the summer you can run cool water through cooling your home”
Is that really true? I’d think that cooling without dehumidifying in most places is an open invitation for condensation and mold. Also it sounds horribly inefficient due to the fact the cool air is just going to pool at the floor.
Jimbo,
I just got a link to this thread that might help out with this discussion.
Lot’s of resource links in the comments. I hope it helps.
Tom
I think I agree with the Department of Energy link here which essentially says you shouldn’t mess with radiant cooling unless you live in the desert SW.
nc jimbo, good post on this subject. Nice to have you on the board.
fabwizard seems to be a spammer, so don’t look for much info or read too much into his posts. Of course I could be wrong, just waiting for the guy to identify himself.
On that note, probally within the first month that I got active on this forum, I got accused of “having an agenda” when I posted a controversial post on a thread. Not a problem, I just identified myself, posted the rest of the story, and the industry changed a little bit in a positive direction.
One thing I learned the hard way, people almost always tell you everything you need to know when you first meet them. fabwizard told us all to look out for “PEDDLERS” in his first post.
Have I mentioned that I hate spammers?
Al,
I think we need to give him a break. I’m not sure if it is his first time ever on a forum, but newbies take awhile to get used to the odd way people relate on these kinds of boards. He knows his history, probably as good as I do, and was working in my neck of the woods at a time when we started fighting the good fight. One thing seems right to me – he’s a fabricator. Seems to be a bit long in the tooth (sorry fabwizard), so you can’t expect him to get it right in a new technology right out of the chute.
One post doth not a spammer make. And if he was spamming, he ain’t now, so give him a shot.
Or, you know, don’t. Your call.
Tom
Tom, if you are vouching for this guy as an actual fabricator I would certainly give the guy the benifit of the doubt. I assume that you know of him personally, if so that is good enough for me and I would offer an apology. Let me know if this is the case.
Thing about sites like this is their value is only there if things are above board. Had this guy started off with a thread like this one, or even answering a question from another poster, no questions would have been asked. That being said, if I was challenged for more info when I joined in, what is the harm in asking it of others?
Will the site lose credibility if we as a group let others use this site for shilling products? I think so. If he is with specialty tool, Andy let’s everyone use their logo so we know who is posting. I doubt the point is to give free advertising, just to identify the players…..
al wrote
nc jimbo, good post on this subject. Nice to have you on the board.
fabwizard seems to be a spammer, so don’t look for much info or read too much into his posts. Of course I could be wrong, just waiting for the guy to identify himself.
On that note, probally within the first month that I got active on this forum, I got accused of “having an agenda” when I posted a controversial post on a thread. Not a problem, I just identified myself, posted the rest of the story, and the industry changed a little bit in a positive direction.
One thing I learned the hard way, people almost always tell you everything you need to know when you first meet them. fabwizard told us all to look out for “PEDDLERS” in his first post.
Have I mentioned that I hate spammers?
Al said:
“Fabwizard seems to be a spammer…”
“Have I mentioned that I hate spammers?”
Way to welcome a new guy to the board Al.
Joe
Al,
Unfortunately I am as in the dark as you. I have a suspicion, though.
I was hoping to find out what happened to a fabricator I heard give the first seminar at the first ISSFA Regional in New England. From the live free or die, I think. He was on a roll, had the whole house in his hand, and while I was pouring some water out of those insipid pitchers they give you at those places I spilled out all the ice on the table. I mean total.
Fool? Me? Look like? Oh yeah.
But I really felt sorry for breaking his stride. He was rolling. I think that’s how I was introduced to Mike Duggan. Good start, yo.
But wiz was around then. In those days, everybody had fun with the stuff. That’s how you learned. Every one was watching, especially DuPont. As you heard, we had a great rep. Those guys are the real hall of famers.
I agree with you on the above board bit. If he likes doing a business with S Tools, that’s fine. Did he go a bit far in expressing his appreciation? Yeah, he did, but if he’s half as new as he says, he doesn’t know the rules. I haven’t seen anything as close since and I’m cool with that. Besides this is a bit fresh to all of us.
Andy and Mory are in new territory, as far as I can see. We have advertisers, fabricators, distributors, reps, Gordon in Caleeforneya, guys who have absolutely no reason to be apart from their spouses,( having seen them), and still waste time here. It’s the first time I’ve seen for real what we always bitch about not having. Sh*t Shooting amongst the whole damn industry. About the only guy who should be here and isn’t… well, that’s a pity, but I’m sure there are good reasons.
We talk about glue, we talk about support, we talk about the tiniest minutae in fabrication.
We talk guys into buying something cool, and get the vicarious buzz. Suckers. (I’m feeling that LT-55 jive)
We talk with guys who shaped the industry – for real. We talk with the brain that understands SS from a scientists point of view, and get to see it in a completely different light. Pity he loves China.
Then we bitch and moan about crap that half the folks don’t want to hear about, and still seem to forgive us for. Or laughing at us for, anyway.
We’re all equal. Libertarian.
But it’s also a business. I know there are shifting policies regarding avatars, but as yet there is no complete way to seperate a man’s identity from that of his business. I think that we could pretty much police the place on our own, as it’s really not to tough to see the guys who reach too far in the promotion thing. I think it would turn us off to his ideas. Kind of Darwin. Joe would aprove (love you, Joe – you rogue).
Andy and Mory have the fun task of trying to hold that firehose of a line. Sucks to be them.
Again, I have to point out that annonymous posting is a two-way street. Nothing wrong with a wall of privacy, but it’s still a wall. That has an effect. Sucks, but that’s the way it is.
Tom
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