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I know they hung him but I couldn’t find that smiley.
I hope and pray those people over there can find the stones/gumption/nads/whatever to stand up to the cowards that use terror to try and destabilize that country now. And I truly hope that we don’t leave them hangin’
chris
I’m not one to watch snuff videos, but I’ll make the exception if I can find one that isn’t so friggin’ slow to load. The world must be wanting to watch this. Fox’s site is down….The U.N. should be thanking us on their knees. They will despise us instead. My local had an editorial saying that, even though SH was a textbook case for kiilling, it is wrong to do it.
Good riddence to bad rubbish.May he burn in H*ll.
Tom
You know, if he’d only gone on Oprah and appologized, this whole genocide thing might have gone away….He got we he deserved. I am with you Chris, hopefully those people have the junk to make the freedom thing work out. I hear it is pretty nice.
Think how lucky and blessed we are that we do not have to weigh the value of liberty against the immediate security of our family. Makes the American Revolution all the more impressive.
Chris
THIS JUST IN: CNN is reporting that in an interview from H*ll, given to Larry King, Saddam has stated that the 17 virgins that are supposed to meet all muslim men upon their demise, are real! But, in a strange twist of fate, all of them look like Jack Klugman.
I though that was 72 virgins, and it has also been interperated as “raisins”. I’m hoping for the raisins, myself.Any stories of IED’s or splodydopes yet?
(a splodeydope is a suicide bomber).I saw a badly shot video of the hanging. Looks like his neck was broke quick.
Tom
Tom M wrote
I though that was 72 virgins, and it has also been interperated as “raisins”. I’m hoping for the raisins, myself.Any stories of IED’s or splodydopes yet?
(a splodeydope is a suicide bomber).I saw a badly shot video of the hanging. Looks like his neck was broke quick.
Tom
Please, send me the link to the email below.
All:
It saddens me that our great country shares the commonality of capital punishment with the likes of North Korea, China, Cuba, North Vietnam, Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. We are in terrible company and you are who you hang with.
Along that line, a friend of mine posted this on another site regarding Sadam and it’s worth repeating here:
“Like you I oppose capital punishment categorically, for both religious and practical/efficacy reasons. Still, I shed no tears for Saddam while opposing the barbaric taking of his wretched life.
But justice was not served IMO. For justice to have been truly carried out, the West’s involvement in Saddam’s rise to power, our arming, and financing of his regime, our military guidance during his assault on Iran, our turning a blind eye to his barbarism when it suited our narrow purpose – for justice to have truly been carried out the active participation of the US and our allies in the creation and support of Saddam the thug would have been laid bare for all the world to see.
That we accept no responsibility for the actions of Saddam which we so generously facilitated is criminal, albeit it par for the course.”
Sadam was a bloodthirsty genocidal maniac, but except for the last 16 of the last 30 years he was OUR bloodthirsty genocidal maniac. Celebrations of his demise without an accounting of our complicity ring hollow for me.
Joe Corlett
P.S.:
To further my point, I’ve got a picture of Sadam shaking hands with former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. I don’t know how to post it and I think pics need approval and I doubt it would get it anyway.
Joe,
The United States is not perfect and never will be. All you have to do is watch the opening ceremony at the Olympics to see that our country is loved by everyone. People from every single country in the world live here in peace and freedom. And those people from other countries have the “right” to critisize this country without fear.
Find me another country that does as much as the United States for others and then you will have a valid point.
As for Sadaam, your are right, they should have killed the bastard in the first gulf war with a rocket to the middle of his forehead. Sadaam tortured, gased and imprisoned people for no particular reason. He allowed his sons to rape women as a hobby.
Let’s not start with Iran. We backed Iraq to get rid of the leaders of Iran. Let us take a quick look at Iran. They don’t like anyone (including women) or anything that is not exactly like them. They are an extremely dangereous country. You do remember the Iran Hostage Crises don’t you?
Andy wrote
Find me another country that does as much as the United States for others and then you will have a valid point.
Andy: Here are twenty-one countries that do more than us relative to Gross National Product:
Foreign Aid Numbers in Charts and GraphsCharts and data from the OECD web site have also been reproduced here for 2002 to 2005, which are latest available figures (at time of writing. It will be updated when possible). You can sort by GNP or raw dollars to see how various nations rank by using the column heading links:
Official Development Assistance (ODA) from 2002 to 2005 ODA in U.S. Dollars (Millions) ODA as % of GNI
Country 2002 2003 2004 2005 2002 2003 2004 2005
Source: OECD Web siteNote: The U.N. ODA agreed target is 0.7 percent of GNI. Most nations do not meet that target.
1. Australia 962 1,237 1,460 1,666 0.25 0.25 0.25 0.25
2. Austria 475 503 678 1,552 0.23 0.2 0.23 0.52
3. Belgium 1,061 1,887 1,463 1,975 0.42 0.61 0.41 0.53
4. Canada 2,013 2,209 2,599 3,731 0.28 0.26 0.27 0.34
5. Denmark 1,632 1,747 2,037 2,107 0.96 0.84 0.85 0.81
6. Finland 466 556 655 897 0.35 0.34 0.35 0.47
7. France 5,182 7,337 8,473 10,059 0.36 0.41 0.41 0.47
8. Germany 5,359 6,694 7,534 9,915 0.27 0.28 0.28 0.35
9. Greece 295 356 465 535 0.22 0.21 0.23 0.24
10. Ireland 397 510 607 692 0.41 0.41 0.39 0.41
11. Italy 2,313 2,393 2,462 5,053 0.2 0.16 0.15 0.29
12. Japan 9,220 8,911 8,906 13,101 0.23 0.2 0.19 0.28
13. Luxembourg 143 189 236 264 0.78 0.8 0.83 0.87
14. Netherlands 3,377 4,059 4,204 5,131 0.82 0.81 0.73 0.82
15. New Zealand 124 169 212 274 0.23 0.23 0.23 0.27
16. Norway 1,746 2,043 2,199 2,775 0.91 0.92 0.87 0.93
17. Portugal 282 298 1,031 367 0.24 0.21 0.63 0.21
18. Spain 1,608 2,030 2,437 3,123 0.25 0.25 0.24 0.29
19. Sweden 1,754 2,100 2,722 3,280 0.74 0.7 0.78 0.92
20. Switzerland 933 1,297 1,545 1,771 0.32 0.38 0.41 0.44
21. UK 4,749 6,166 7,883 10,754 0.3 0.34 0.36 0.48
22. USA 12,900 15,791 19,705 27,457 0.12 0.14 0.17 0.22More here: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
I guess this means I have a valid point.
Joe
No Joe it doesn’t.
Your numbers are nice and all but here is the reality.
America gives:
- Billions from private companies
- Millions for the Red Cross and other Non-Profit organizations
- Military support and protection
- Military provide disaster relief
- America provides not only money but billions of dollars in food.
The chart you are talking about only give actual monetary contributions not the total across the board contributions.
Joe,
Andy is correct. Your numbers shown are Government conmtributions. When totaled no one comes close. Also, remember the tsunami off Sri Lanka? We had forces there less then 24 hours, handing out food and rendering aid. The only other country there that early? Israel. It took the blasted UN two weeks to figure out how to set up the kitchens.Your friend is a bit off as well. Iraq’s defense forces were about three to five percent US supplied when he turned from barbarity locally to international barbarian (I appologize if I have offended any barbarians out there). Did we prop him up? nope, we just had to go with the guy who was against the Soviet Union. He took over and brutalized his people on his own. Pinochet? now there’s a different story. The fact that we have to do business with tyrants is sad, truly, but necessary. You want to stack our dictators up with the Soviet backed ones? Oh wait, you don’t have to. Stalin himself led the slaughter of more than twenty million.
It would be awful nice if it doesn’t have to be this way, and I believe it is less so today than thirty years ago. The only way for this not to be necessary would be to have an effective world organization dedicated to peace and cooperation between countries. That, I’m afraid, does not exist. Speaking of the UN, when Iran, Syria, and Cuba can be members of the Committe to oversee human rights, it’s worthless. Does your friend know any G-8 country that doesn’t align itself with oppressors of human rights. We backed SH when he could do us some good. We turned away, when he screwed Kuwait. For gosh sakes, France, Russia, members of the English Parliament, and admittedly some American businessmen were getting payoffs from him after World wide economic sanctions were in place.
Andy, only because you asked:
Here is the link. Not actually graphic, and if iyt were the lousy vamera phone movie images wouldn’t show much detail anyway.Tom
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