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  • #944
    Alex Trost
    Member

    While this site is more realistic than others that have been posted as it relates to comparisons of granite, e-stone & solid surface, the “seams are visible” part on solid surface is utter lunacy. Where do these guys come from?

    http://www.keidel.com/design/select/tops-matl-compare.htm

    #17399
    Gordon Shell
    Member

    I wrote them and asked them “in kind words” to revise their article with factual information on SS. I also referred them to the fab network if they needed help with their research.

    #17400

    Thanks Gordon, you beat me to the bunch although another e-mail won’t hurt. So, I’ll send one.

    #17407
    Tom M
    Member

    Seams are inconspicuous, giving the appearance of a solid, continuous surface throughout. Unlike granite or natural stone, seams in solid surface should not be placed at sinks or cooktops.

    I think (hope) that first statement was a typo, when you go further in the article you find the above statement.

    There is more to be steamed about regarding laminate tops. This statement:

    Do not use the countertop for a “hot pad”. Prolonged exposure to temperatures of 140°F (60°C) or higher may cause the laminate to separate from the core material, or cause it to melt.

    while partially acurate with regards the glue reactivation, is completely bolloksed on the material. Laminate will burn or blister, not melt, and we heat it to 313 degrees F to form it. It won’t blister until it gets past 323 degrees F. Heck, the laminate manufacturers guarantee it to 275.

    I swear we need to make a clue-bat for countertop reviewers.

    Tom

    #17408
    Andy Kraut
    Member

    I asked in my e-mail if the writer of the article had EVER fabricated a top? Will be interesting to see if any of us get a response. If I don’t, I’m calling them!

    #17418
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    I called the company and spoke with the person that wrote the articles. He was very nice and listened to what I had to say. he told me he would take a look at the article again and adjust what he thought was appropriate.

    He was not writing the article to be intentionally misleading. He has had experiences with solid surface where the seams were visible and he does not want to give the impression to his customers that the seams are invisible.

    #17419
    Sue Turner
    Member

    Then he’s not seaming properly. Period. Maybe he needs the link to Monument Tool Works.

    Nice job Andy, FabNet changing one misconception at a time! Get-R-Done.

    #17429
    Tom M
    Member

    Only 49, 573,981 to go.

    Hop to it, boys.

    #17430

    You’re not kidding Tom. And, why would consumers even need quality fabricators such as the folks on this board, when afterall, it’s as easy as can be to do it yourself with sites like this:

    http://www.easyfabcountertops.com

    #17431
    Tom M
    Member

    Nice find, there Dave.

    This seems to be the logical step with 3CM. I didn’t see much about a warranty, but I would assume it is material defects only.

    I have to say, the market giveth, and the market taketh away.

    It seemed like he was making his own, yes?

    #17432

    Perhaps Chad knows of them, they say they supply a tube of Integra adhesive with every job.

    #17433
    Joe Lukomski
    Member

    Tom, I did not see where they stated what 3cm material it was. Perhaps someone can tell by the individual color names.

    #17434
    Tom M
    Member

    That’s why I was wondering if they made their own.

    They wouldn’t have to toe anyone’s line about warranties if it’s their product.

    Question:

    As long as they market it under their name, with whatever manufacturer staying private, wouldn’t this be fine as far as the law goes? Does a manufacturer have to follow their public warranty policy, if they keep the seller from identifying the material as theirs?

    #17435
    Loren Fisher
    Member

    That material is nothing short of a material that was just at the Solid Surface show in Orlando. It is 3 cm and available in other thicknesses. That is not my website nor would I sell in such a manner,but I do recognize the material and colors as EOS.

    Loren

    #17436
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    I thought EOS only sold through certified fabricators. Why would they want homeowners to DIY? I guess EOS has never really ever stated whether it is a concern although I am sure it is much easier to DIY 3cm material than 1/2.

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