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April 12, 2007 at 5:35 pm #1001
Norm Walters
MemberOk, maybe he should have gotten fired for what he said. But there shouldn’t be a double standard, why is is ok for african americans to call each other ho’s and the “n” word and it is not ok for caucasions to do the same. If all men are created equal then why is there this need for a double standard which separates us. I’m confused
April 12, 2007 at 5:46 pm #18323Ken Gregory
MemberI was going to post about this Norm but…
Never listened to the dude, tried once but not my cup of tea. Apparently this is not the 1st time Mr. Imus has let his tongue over ride his brain. Yes, there is a double standard but I’m over the whole politically correct crap.
His advertisers bailed, CBS bailed, MSNBC bailed, thats a whole lot of bailing. Yeah, he should have been canned. No reason for the comment and please save the 1st ammendment spiel.
He’ll end up with Stern on satellite radio.
April 13, 2007 at 6:50 am #18344Matt Kraft
MemberI like Jason Whitlock’s take on this. He is a black sportswriter from Kansas City that gets accused of playing the “race card” a lot. I don’t think he does do that, he surely writes with an undertone of race and his desire to end racism, but its not the usual pity party that most writers play on when they discuss race.
I agree with a lot of what he says:
http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html
Another good one.
http://sports.aol.com/whitlock/_a/time-for-jackson-sharpton-to-step-down/20070411111509990001
Thoughts?
April 13, 2007 at 7:37 am #18349Joe Corlett
MemberMatt:
I could not disagree with a single word Jason Whitlock wrote in those two articles. Excelllent and thaks for the link.
Joe
April 13, 2007 at 4:52 pm #18378Andy Graves
KeymasterHe deserved to get fired. The reason he did is because nobody that is trying to make money in the business world wants to be associated with him.
Remember it is perfectly legal to use the “N” word…but you will suffer the concequences.
April 13, 2007 at 8:42 pm #18392Price
MemberIf the sponsors had not bailed he would still have a job. It’s time for that cowboy to ride off into the sunset. Besides the comment, he also likes Kerry. What the heck. That alone should of got him canned years ago.
April 13, 2007 at 9:24 pm #18397Joe Corlett
MemberFEDSAWWES wrote
If the sponsors had not bailed he would still have a job. It’s time for that cowboy to ride off into the sunset. Besides the comment, he also likes Kerry. What the heck. That alone should of got him canned years ago.
Dave:
Actually, the “sponsors bailing” demonstrates that the free market system is working perfectly.
It is always a pleasure to know that businesses are responsive to the desires of their customers, whether it’s fabricators unhappy about a manufacturer’s path to market or a minorty boycott of Proctor and Gamble soaps. This is capitalism at it’s best and it’s served us very well for over two hundred years.
The network poo-bahs thought a two-week suspension was enough, the guys paying the bills didn’t agree and the poo-bahs reconsidered.
All is as it should be,
Joe
April 13, 2007 at 9:36 pm #18398mike goeller
MemberJoe, that was WES not DAVE. I’m shorter than him.
But anyway, I’m glad the human cadaver is gone.
April 13, 2007 at 9:40 pm #18400Joe Corlett
MemberDave:
I stand corrected. I saw the logo and made an assumption. I guess I’ll have to start reading the posts to which I’m responding.
Joe
April 13, 2007 at 9:43 pm #18402von
MemberJoe, there’s no logo next to Wes. I’ll only let him post a pic of Lurch. He declined.
April 13, 2007 at 10:32 pm #18408Bud Weishaar
MemberThere was this really cool old black dude on fox news tonight talking about Imus. His position was that the guy wasn’t racist, that what he said wasn’t racist, that he knew what racist was.
Interesting part was when he talked about words and the lengths people go to not offend. One of his points was the N word, and how we all used that as shorthand for the real word. Point was, why not just say it. His example was that Jewish folks don’t make us say the H word or caucasian people don’t insist on the C word.
That old dude had his head screwed on straight. No one could hurt his feelings with words, he knew what he was and it wasn’t that.
Imus himself, I don’t have an opinion. Heard him rant once or twice, seemed alwfull gruff.
April 14, 2007 at 9:59 am #18412Joe Corlett
MemberAll:
This is amazing and a perfect example of the double standard:
http://www.imsorryalsharpton.com/
The Chappel link is funny.
Joe
April 14, 2007 at 10:19 pm #18450Joe Corlett
MemberAll:
I found this on Craigslist:
This really sums it up. Written by a minority journalist who should be a leader to solve this filth we are teaching our young. It’s not liberal vs. conservative, it’s common sense; a trait lacking in leaders on both sides. compromise to get reelected outweighs the common good.
It’s more than just Imus
Shaun Powell
SPORTS COLUMNIST
April 12, 2007
In retrospect, outraged people shouldn’t have united and screamed “blank you” to Don Imus the last few days. No, instead, we should’ve stuck out our hand and said, “Thank you.”
We should feel indebted to a shriveled, unfunny, insensitive frog for being so ignorant that he actually did us all a favor. He woke society the hell up. He grabbed it by the throat, shook hard and ordered us to take a long, critical look at ourselves and the mess we’ve made and ignored for much too long. He made us examine the culture and the characters we’ve created for ourselves, our impressionable young people and our future.
Had Imus not called a bunch of proud and innocent young women “nappy-headed hos,” would we be as ashamed of what we see as we are today?
Or, to quote Rutgers coach C. Vivian Stringer: “Have we really lost our moral fiber?”
And our minds as well?
I’m not sure if the last few days will serve as a watershed moment for this MTV, middle-finger, screw-you generation. Probably not, according to my hunch. A short time from now, the hysteria will turn to vapor, folks will settle back into their routines, somebody will pump up the volume on the latest poison produced by hip-hop while Al Sharpton and the other racial ambulance chasers will find other guilt-ridden white folks to shake for fame and cash. In five minutes, the entire episode of Imus and his strange idea of humor will be older than his hairstyle. Lessons learned will be lessons forgotten.
I wish I were wrong about that last part. But I doubt it, because any minute now, black people will resume calling themselves bitches and hos and the N-word and in the ultimate sign of hypocrisy, neither Rutgers nor anyone else will call a news conference about that.
Because when we really get to the root of the problem, this isn’t about Imus. This is about a culture we — meaning black folks — created and condoned and packaged for white power brokers to sell and shock jocks like Imus to exploit. Can we talk?
Tell me: Where did an old white guy like Imus learn the word “ho”?
Was that always part of his vocabulary? Or did he borrow it from Jay-Z and Dave Chappelle and Snoop Dogg?
What really disappointed me about that exhausting Rutgers news conference, which was slyly used as a recruiting pitch by Stringer, was the absence of the truth and the lack of backbone and courage. Black women had the perfect opportunity to lash out at their most dangerous oppressors — black men — and yet they kept the focus on a white guy.
It was a tremendous letdown for me, personally and professionally. I wanted Stringer, and especially her players, many of whom listen to rap and hip-hop, to take Nelly to task. Or BET. Or MTV. Or the gangsta culture that is suffocating our kids. They had the ear and eye of the nation trained upon them, and yet these women didn’t get to the point and the root of the matter. They danced around it, and I guess I should’ve known better, because black people still refuse to lash out against those black people who are doing harm to us
April 15, 2007 at 12:06 pm #18461Andy Graves
KeymasterTell me: Where did an old white guy like Imus learn the word “ho”?
Was that always part of his vocabulary? Or did he borrow it from Jay-Z and Dave Chappelle and Snoop Dogg?
I think this says it all. He still should be fired.
April 15, 2007 at 12:30 pm #18472Joe Corlett
MemberAndy wrote
Tell me: Where did an old white guy like Imus learn the word “ho”?
Was that always part of his vocabulary? Or did he borrow it from Jay-Z and Dave Chappelle and Snoop Dogg?
I think this says it all. He still should be fired.
Andy:
I agree. As should Jay-Z, Dave Chappelle and Snoop Dogg.
Yeah, right.
The double standard is alive and well,
Joe
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