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  • #1026
    Robert Kline
    Member

    I am new here

    what is the best product to use to attach substrate to the cabinets

    rob k

    #18662
    Joe Corlett
    Member

    Cabints&More wrote

    I am new here

    what is the best product to use to attach substrate to the cabinets

    rob k

    Welcome Rob:

    For solid surface, dime sized dabs of silicone every 12-18 inches.

    Joe

    #18663
    Wags
    Member

    I’ll take what Joe said one step further. I always suggest attaching your substrate strips in the shop, this should be done as Joe said, using silicone. When I get to the job, I screw the top from the cleats on the cabinets, much as you would a laminate top. If needed you can shim under the substrate to level the counter. This gets me in and out of the job ASAP, and I don’t have to worry someone will move the top before the silicone has a change to set. Good Luck and welcome !

    #18666
    Karl Crooks
    Member

    Most of the installs that we see are done as Wags said.

    #18671
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    Welcome to the FabNet.

    If you are going to attach the substrate to the cabinets first, you can nail, screw or silicone onto cabinet. If you are installing the substrate to the counter first, do like Joe and Wags.

    #18702
    Robert Kline
    Member

    Thanks guys,

    One more question does it mater how much you spend on silicone I see prices from 2.79 to 7.95 and sometimes more at the home stores. Is it all the same for SS?

    rob k

    #18703
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    I don’t think it is all the same but if your paying no more than $4.00 a tube than your fine. You can find some less and some more.

    #18705
    Joe Corlett
    Member

    Rob:

    When I had my shop, I bought all my silicone from these guys http://chemical-concepts.com/products.htm at a bit over two bucks a tube, but that was seven years ago.

    Joe

    #18709
    Bruce Mosser
    Member

    Heck, you can buy silicone at Wal-Mart for around $1.80 a tube. That is if you want runny factory 3rds. All silicone is not created equally.

    #18725
    Andy Graves
    Keymaster

    FEDSAWDAVE wrote

    Heck, you can buy silicone at Wal-Mart for around $1.80 a tube. That is if you want runny factory 3rds. All silicone is not created equally.

    Dave,

    Do you know what the difference is?

    #18729
    Dani Homrich
    Member

    Rob,

    There many different grades of silicone and it is all about how long they retain there elastomeric properties. Less expensive silicones do not have additives in them to increase there life span and have very poor UV resistance. Cheep clear silicone will turn yellow in a very short time, not good to use in places where a customer can see. Silicone with RTV (ROOM TEMPERATURE VULCANIZING (RTV) RUBBER; SILICONE ELASTOMER) on the label are of the highest quality and retain there elastomeric properties the longest. For backsplashes when using clear silicone look for the maximum UV resistance on the tube it usually sells for a little over $5. The GE Silicone II Window and Door is a good choice for this application. Remember you only get what you pay for and I do not recommend $3 silicone to finish your backsplashes.

    Dani

    #18732

    Let’s see. RTV silicone is a must. True

    Dow-Corning private labeled RTV silicone. Sells for around $3.00 per tube. On average, 8,640 tubes per month. In thousands of homes and 100’s of fabricators shops since 1999.

    Bottom line, if you have 5 bucks plus to spend on silicone per tube, A) you have to much cash B) You don’t have a supplier that buys quailty and volume. And, there are many packagers/sellers of high quality silicone in this country where you can buy it for around 3 bucks a tube.

    #18740
    Dani Homrich
    Member

    Dave,

    You are right they all sell silicone for $3, My point was to get the clear silicone with the maximum UV resistance to finish off a backsplash to hinder the UV yellowing as long as possible to remove the possibility of a customer complaint, and usually that type cost more. They can use anything they want under the deck, fact $2 silicone will work for that.

    Dani

    #18741

    Agreed. I have a wash basin in the garage with a small SS top. It has had that bead of silicone on it for 3 years. Other than a little dust, it has no yellowing and no shrinkage.

    I’ve seen the GE silicone II at the depot. It better be damn good…exceptional for the price they charge.

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