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April 19, 2007 at 1:39 pm #1026
Robert Kline
MemberI am new here
what is the best product to use to attach substrate to the cabinets
rob k
April 19, 2007 at 2:25 pm #18662Joe Corlett
MemberCabints&More wrote
I am new here
what is the best product to use to attach substrate to the cabinets
rob k
Welcome Rob:
For solid surface, dime sized dabs of silicone every 12-18 inches.
Joe
April 19, 2007 at 3:31 pm #18663Wags
MemberI’ll take what Joe said one step further. I always suggest attaching your substrate strips in the shop, this should be done as Joe said, using silicone. When I get to the job, I screw the top from the cleats on the cabinets, much as you would a laminate top. If needed you can shim under the substrate to level the counter. This gets me in and out of the job ASAP, and I don’t have to worry someone will move the top before the silicone has a change to set. Good Luck and welcome !
April 19, 2007 at 4:57 pm #18666Karl Crooks
MemberMost of the installs that we see are done as Wags said.
April 19, 2007 at 6:25 pm #18671Andy Graves
KeymasterWelcome to the FabNet.
If you are going to attach the substrate to the cabinets first, you can nail, screw or silicone onto cabinet. If you are installing the substrate to the counter first, do like Joe and Wags.
April 20, 2007 at 12:16 pm #18702Robert Kline
MemberThanks guys,
One more question does it mater how much you spend on silicone I see prices from 2.79 to 7.95 and sometimes more at the home stores. Is it all the same for SS?
rob k
April 20, 2007 at 4:15 pm #18703Andy Graves
KeymasterI don’t think it is all the same but if your paying no more than $4.00 a tube than your fine. You can find some less and some more.
April 20, 2007 at 6:27 pm #18705Joe Corlett
MemberRob:
When I had my shop, I bought all my silicone from these guys http://chemical-concepts.com/products.htm at a bit over two bucks a tube, but that was seven years ago.
Joe
April 20, 2007 at 7:51 pm #18709Bruce Mosser
MemberHeck, you can buy silicone at Wal-Mart for around $1.80 a tube. That is if you want runny factory 3rds. All silicone is not created equally.
April 21, 2007 at 1:26 am #18725Andy Graves
KeymasterFEDSAWDAVE wrote
Heck, you can buy silicone at Wal-Mart for around $1.80 a tube. That is if you want runny factory 3rds. All silicone is not created equally.
Dave,
Do you know what the difference is?
April 21, 2007 at 1:59 pm #18729Dani Homrich
MemberRob,
There many different grades of silicone and it is all about how long they retain there elastomeric properties. Less expensive silicones do not have additives in them to increase there life span and have very poor UV resistance. Cheep clear silicone will turn yellow in a very short time, not good to use in places where a customer can see. Silicone with RTV (ROOM TEMPERATURE VULCANIZING (RTV) RUBBER; SILICONE ELASTOMER) on the label are of the highest quality and retain there elastomeric properties the longest. For backsplashes when using clear silicone look for the maximum UV resistance on the tube it usually sells for a little over $5. The GE Silicone II Window and Door is a good choice for this application. Remember you only get what you pay for and I do not recommend $3 silicone to finish your backsplashes.
Dani
April 21, 2007 at 2:49 pm #18732reynold rodriguez
MemberLet’s see. RTV silicone is a must. True
Dow-Corning private labeled RTV silicone. Sells for around $3.00 per tube. On average, 8,640 tubes per month. In thousands of homes and 100’s of fabricators shops since 1999.
Bottom line, if you have 5 bucks plus to spend on silicone per tube, A) you have to much cash B) You don’t have a supplier that buys quailty and volume. And, there are many packagers/sellers of high quality silicone in this country where you can buy it for around 3 bucks a tube.
April 21, 2007 at 4:14 pm #18740Dani Homrich
MemberDave,
You are right they all sell silicone for $3, My point was to get the clear silicone with the maximum UV resistance to finish off a backsplash to hinder the UV yellowing as long as possible to remove the possibility of a customer complaint, and usually that type cost more. They can use anything they want under the deck, fact $2 silicone will work for that.
Dani
April 21, 2007 at 4:23 pm #18741Kelly Overton
MemberAgreed. I have a wash basin in the garage with a small SS top. It has had that bead of silicone on it for 3 years. Other than a little dust, it has no yellowing and no shrinkage.
I’ve seen the GE silicone II at the depot. It better be damn good…exceptional for the price they charge.
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