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February 27, 2007 at 11:04 am #831
Norm Walters
MemberIs anyone using these sinks, the price is great and I have a hotel remodel project that I will need 60+ sinks at a good price point. On the other hand I don’t want to be doing warranty work for 6 months.
February 27, 2007 at 6:53 pm #15732Wags
MemberI don’t want to burst your bubble Norm, but I would be very wary of using a solid surface sink in a hotel situation. Ice gets dumped in the sinks and then hot water turned on to shave, its a no win situation. Almost every spec I have seen for hotels includes a china sink undermounted under either granite or solid surface. I could tell you a horror story about a hotel I did about 20 some years ago. Almost every Corian sink installed had to be replaced. I would be very very certain your covered on a warranty if you do go the SS sink route.
Im working on several hotels now and I have suggested china sinks for that reason..
Good Luck !
February 27, 2007 at 7:05 pm #15734Norm Walters
MemberWags, I appreciate the advice, knowing you have alot more experience than me. Actually china sinks might be easier in the long run, just from the standpoint of transporting them. I am doing these in 2cm material with set on splashes. Sink cutout and edge profile, very fast.
February 27, 2007 at 7:13 pm #15737Wags
MemberYOu should be able to purchase china sinks for about $30 ea. I would use clips and also silicone to attach them, If one cracks its a no brainer to replace. “more experience” .. umm.. is that code for YOUR OLD ! (i am actually..sigh…)
February 27, 2007 at 7:30 pm #15739Mory Ludwick
MemberNorm
Answer your Phone
Mory
February 27, 2007 at 7:52 pm #15741Norm Walters
MemberWags, I’m 46 next month, it’s just I’ve had a diversified career. 15 years as a roofing contractor, got too old for that, 8 years rehabbing forclosure homes, market went south, now a kitchen and bath remodeler, even getting too old for that, maybe a fine finish as a realtor.
February 27, 2007 at 8:05 pm #15743Wags
MemberA mere pup Norm !
February 27, 2007 at 10:27 pm #15756Shane Barker
MemberFebruary 28, 2007 at 6:40 am #15763Norm Walters
MemberI remember it now Shane. I would still have liked to have used solid surface sinks on this project, it seams like a Karran, or an Integra sink would be better for hotel use since they are reinforced with fiberglass to reduce thermo shock problems. I probably won’t though Wag’s freaked me out.
February 28, 2007 at 8:39 am #15768Shane Barker
MemberHe did have some good points. The Karran sinks do have 50 year warranty, might be worth checking out. They are supposed to be much stronger because of the fiber reinforcement.
Shane
February 28, 2007 at 9:55 am #15776Tom M
MemberBe careful with the Karran warranty. You get a sink, plus I think about $250.00 for all labor and expenses, incl. plumbing. I don’t think you want to replace all those sinks for that kind of loss per sink. I’m not even sure if commercial use is warranted. Check it out before you make the leap.
Wags is right, go porcelin.
Having said that, we have Corian sinks seam mounted into Highway rest stops all along the Ct. Turnpike. So far they have held up very well.
Tom
February 28, 2007 at 1:39 pm #15783Matt Kraft
MemberWe just landed a job for 164 tops in a hotel remodel. They originally wanted solid surface, we were going to zip everything out of EOS. Quoting the job was a pain, even though the tops were pretty straightforward. They asked for a million different options and then wanted everything itemized, material, labor, installation of sinks, installation of assembled top.Turns out what we ended up getting a PO for is to supply 164 pre-fab Baltic Brown tops, not supply sinks, but install their Mansfield 217’s onsite when we deliver the tops, and then they will install the assembled top.
Good thing I gave them our full mark up on the tops, and only charged them about 10% less to only install the china sinks vs. the entire top. Hopefully we will do well on this one.
February 28, 2007 at 6:19 pm #15793Wags
MemberI also did alot of vanites for commercial applications, such as along the toll roads. Difference is, in hotels you have ICE, which winds up in the sink, and HOT water, which winds up melting the ICE. Mix the two spells disaster. I learned this the hard way ! I R Old but I have a good memory ! I would also recommend going with an Acrylic rather than a poly top. There is a difference, just my opinion.
February 28, 2007 at 7:06 pm #15796Christopher Hyatt
MemberNorm,
This is out of the Karran manual:
Question: What is thermal shock and can it damage a Karran sink?
Answer: Thermal shock results from a dramatic change in temperature. It can cause other solid surface sinks to crack. Karran, partly due to its fiberglass backing, will never crack because of thermal shock. Feel free to pour boiling water or trays of ice into your sink. No damage will result.
Their warranty does state it covers residential or commercial applications. The amount for warranty coverage is $250 for sink replacement.
I have a overflow kit on the way so I will get with you when I get it to see how that looks.
Chris
February 28, 2007 at 8:24 pm #15799Norm Walters
MemberChris, this is how that K3 job turned out, along with the cherry vanities, doesn’t look bad
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