[Norm Walters]

Johnny, alot of the time it’s not about the cheaper adhesive, it is about the better one, the one with the lowest failure rate. Most on here know which brand is in that category.

[Chad Thomas]

Andy,

We were given the rights to the Corian mini cartridge and dispenser so their 50ml and ours (dispensers included) are exactly the same.

Chad

[Tom M]

Johnny C,

That’s the way I see it. If I get a failure (not in a long time – knock wood), then they will have to make a decision whether to recommend another brand.

Tom

[John Christensen]

I went back and re-read my previous post. When I did so it wasn’t even clear to me what was the meaning of what I said was.

Let me try again.

I personally only use the glue that the manufacturer recommends. My post was intended to question the the decision of some fabricators who will use other adhesives simply for cost savings. Some manufacturers don’t seem to care what adhesive you use. In those cases go for the cost savings as long as you are comfortable with the quality of the bond and color match. Others are very specific and have required the fabricator to agree to use only their adhesive. My comment on integrety had to do with those agreements and the decision by some fabricators to disregard it because of a low chance of being found out, and in the mean time maybe save a buck.

Johnny C

[Chris Yaughn]

I am kinda like Norm on this one. In all honesty, I couldn’t tell you which cost more to get in my door. Corian or Integra. My volume is so low that I am much more concerned about that little margin for error that a GOOD color/translucency (sp) match gives me. As well as predictable cure times.

I have never used Corian adhesives and was concerned that it might fall in line with other manufacturers adhesives that I have been unhappy with. I have the bulk packs in and will , hopefully, get a chance to use them soon.

I will say this, I recently got a pallet of Corian in and the driver was by far the most helpful yet. Just lucky that the general freight guy on my route also delivers Starron, Integra, Rugby etc…

Chris

[Andy Graves]

Chad Thomas wrote

Andy,

We were given the rights to the Corian mini cartridge and dispenser so their 50ml and ours (dispensers included) are exactly the same.

Chad

I have a small gun from Corian and you guys. The Corian one won’t fit in your gun. It is an old gun so not sure if that means something.

[Andy Graves]

Johnny C,

If you read the warranty of many manufacturers, they do not cover the seam. With that said, if you are the one that is responsible you should use the glue that works the best with the fewest failures. I think Corian, Wilsonart, and Formica all make their own glues and they color match very well and the work.

There are other companies like Acrybond that have had many problems with their glue. I wouldn’t recommend that brand.

Without sounding like a salesman, I use Integra, cause it works 99% of the time and they have a color that works 99% of the time.

[Andy Graves]

Check the Warranty Chart. It shows which brands you are required to use the manufacturers glue.

[Ray Aleksic]

Hello Andy,

My last post did not work to well…..

The dispenser you are talking about is the 40ml. We currently use the 50ml cartridge and dispenser, that is the same as Corians cartridge and dispenser.

I believe Corian, Wilsonart and Formica buy there adhesives on the open market and do not make their own.

[Shane Barker]

With cost aside, I will use whatever glue I find to be the best quality and has the most reliability and consistency. Some manufacturers change their glues so often you would never know what glue you are getting from one order to the next. Corian adhesive is very consistent, it consistently slows us down. I would be more likely to use Corian adhesive if they paid me the labor I spend on wasted time waiting for their glue to harden.

As Andy said, they don’t warranty the seams, and they could care less if I have to wait several hours hoping their glue will harden, so as far as the agreement I have with them I feel I can make a much better top if I don’t have to deal with their adhesive on a regular basis and as long as I use a quality adhesive does it really matter? When I have spoke to them about this they said their requirement was more for the fabricators trying to save a buck by using a substandard adhesive, and I see their point.

Shane

[Ray Aleksic]

Hello Johnny C,

It comes down to saving more than a buck. I have a fabricator that saved over 100k switching adhesives. That is a direct savings. The indirect savings are in our tip size, tip cost, cure speed and sanding properties. There is good glue and some bad glue in the market. I would use the glue you feel comfortable with and have the most success with.

I laugh when I rent cars from Hertz and on the gas cap it says BP fuel only.

Ray Aleksic

[Tom M]

Shane,

I’m pretty sure Corian seam performance is warranted.

Tom

[John Christensen]

You are correct Tom.

Even if other fab errors are present. The original fabricator will simply get back charged for the repair if that is the case.

Johnny C

[Norm Walters]

I am curious if those of you that are Corian CFI’s think that ten years seems like an awful lot of exposure considering the profit margin is no different using any other brand of material?

Also a question for Karl from BTP, are most of the repairs you do a result of fabricators that are no longer in business?

[Tom M]

Norm,

They hate it. They all hate it.

Marketting loves it.

Compared to what else is out there, for any kind of product, it’s a gift. The consumer gets a fantastic warranty. The problem is people don’t buy that way. As long as the coverage keeps up, it has to be one of the best in the world. But listen to Karl, and Joe, and Gordon. The coverage is getting thinner. That means they’ve run out of corners to cut.

Tom

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