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can anyone help
what is the price per metre of fabrication of coppermine avonite
is there any tricks for sanding up this product apart from going threw the grits
and also last time i worked with tis stuff i felt it had bit where the router would cut no problem like corian then suddenly it would hit a soft bit is this common
cheers
hi Dani i think it is polyester is the gloss finish i am after we acheived on a bar top in scotland but it was very labour intensive
Scott,
I had a commercial job where a large volume of Avonite Glass series sheets were to be polished (to a commercial polish) and painted for wall cladding.It was the first time I spent the extra money to use tri-zact paper. In a series of four 11 1/4″ diameter discs, distinguished by colors, you can go from an “as delivered” finsh, meaning no heavy scratches – (make sure you insist on that!) when you receive them, to a very good commercial quality polish. It was amazing.
There aren’t too many fabricator’s that can give you advice like Dani, by the way. All I can tell you is that between investing in a CNC router, and Gem sanders (Purcheasd from Steve L, but I don’t know if he still sells them) with these discs, it made an obscene reduction in the time it took to finish these sheets.
Almost evil in the extra profit.
But the good kind of evil.
By the way, Scott:
If I remember right, Dave announced a special on tri-zact. Buy in bulk, demand a great price. You know Dave wants it. Bad.But the good kind of bad.
Scott, we use more polyester than anything else. Sand to thirty micron, then brown bar with white pad, then blue bar with yellow pad, use a varible speed buffer, slow as you can stand it when finishing up.
Time, maybe a half a day extra on a two and a half sheet job. Add a couple of hours if you do splash, it takes almost as long ast the tops.
I need to try that trizac……….
thanks Tom i am in talks with Dave about the gem sander and paper hopefully i will be the proud owner by wednesday
thanks again
Gee Tom, thanks! LOL Nice chatting with scott today and we’ll get it across the pond as rapidly as possible. One thing about 3M Trizact is that the 4 color sytem does a tremendous job achieving hi-gloss on Solid Surface and is the most durable abrasive I have ever seen. It uses 3M’s patented microreplication technology.
Of coarse, scott helped me as well. When in Rome, do as the Romans do and when talking to a fabricator in Scotland, ask what his favorite double malt is. He made suggestions and I shall take him up on them.
CHEERS!
70% of all the tops I sell are Polyester and 60% of them are High polished to a mirror finish. Yes I do a lot of sanding. People have different opinions on what is polished, many fabricators will shine a top and call it polished, but until they see a true polished top they have no idea what the top should look like when they are done. If you want to achieve a high polished, wet sanding is the only way to go. Believe me, I have spent years working out better ways to polish Solid Surface.
I have been sanding Solid Surface for over 20 years and I have been wet sanding since “92” When it comes to wet sanding there are far less products available then dry sanding and many more things to be aware of.
Trizactq is great, but it only comes without holes in the film. This would be fine if you were sanding a car hood, but you are not. Sanding Solid Surface is much different, the Deck is perfectly flat, thus you need holes in the film to help eliminate the Hydroplaning or suction problem with water, the same reason tires have tread. Without holes you are fighting against a film of water to sand your top, thus greatly reducing the efficiency of the sanding film. Because I wet sand, I prefer 3Mq 268L micron film with holes the product Avonite recommends to sand their Polyester. It is less expensive than Trizactq and works great on Solid Surface. 1 disk of 60µ or 30µ will sand 30 sq ft and at 3 times the cost I have never gotten 90 sq ft out of a Trizactq disk, but if you are usig Trizactq and sanding wet, take a hole punch and punch holes in your disk to match the holes in your pad, you will be amazed at the difference. No, the holes do not cause pigtails it is the contamination in them that does, clean your sander and pad between each grit.
This is for Wet or Dry sanding
3M™ Hookit™ Microfinishing Film, 268L Discs
Micron graded aluminum oxide resin bonded to a 3 mil polyester film backing. Sold as discs &sheets with loop backing for attachment to hook faced back up pads. Easy to re-use. Use wet or dry for finishing a wide assortment of work pieces.
This is for Dry sanding
3M™ Hookit™ Microfinishing Film, 266L Discs
Micron graded aluminum oxide resin bonded to a 3 mil polyester film backing. Open coat abrasive surface is coated with a dry lubricant to resist loading. Sold as discs & sheets with loop backing for attachment to hook faced back up pads. Easy to re-use.
3M™ Trizact™ Film
Produced with 3M’s microreplication technology, this film backed abrasive ensures a fast, consistent cut rate through the long life of the abrasive. Fantastic results on solid surface composites, plastics and glass defect repair.
Also available are micron graded silicon carbide disc by Micro-Surface Finishing Products Inc up to 6000g and in aluminum oxide in 8000g & 12000g for all of you that want to polish by sanding.
Here’s the link
https://www.micro-surface.com/default.cfm?page_id=1
I am not telling anyone what they should or should not use, I’m only sharing information with all.
Dani
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